ASCAS Association of Small Collectors of Antique Silver        newsletter # 82 March 2011
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Marks of Christofle item, issued by Musso branch in c. 1922
Prof. David N. Nikogosyan presents:

'CAT' marks of Christofle foreign branches operated between 1910 and 1940  English version


.....In 1854 (or 1856), the famous French silversmith company Christofle opened its first branch at Karlsruhe, Germany (at that time Grossherzogtum Baden or Grand Duchy of Baden). The reason for moving the manufacturing abroad was purely economic, namely, to reduce the huge custom taxes. The scheme was very simple: the semi-finished product, fully prepared for silver-plating, was made in Paris, while its silvering took place in Karlsruhe. Further the Karlsruhe foundry opened its own subsidiary company in Vienna, Austro-Hungary.....
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New members

Welcome to new ASCAS members:  

Joy Aumiller - USA
Chitra Balasubramaniam - India
Katherine Blair - USA
Jonathan Bovee - USA
Hélène Boyance - French Polynesia
John Christman - USA
Daniel Figueiredo - Brazil
Daniela Fioretti - Italy
Ann Hill - USA
Sam Hill - England UK
Raven Ivanov - USA
Marguerite Lee de Hirschmann - Guatemala
Luis Castelo Lopes - Portugal
Carol Silverman - USA
Simon Sullivan - Malta
Robert L. Walden - USA
 
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Niello silver match safe: Markowitsch & Scheid (1862-1881)
C. Bruno Bruni presents:

Niello Silver from Vienna English version

Georg Adam Scheid was born in Schönau Baden, Württemberg on July 28 1837. He started his apprenticeship in 1853 and operated afterwards in Pforzheim and Stuttgart. In 1858 he came to Vienna and entered the workshop of the gold, silver goods producer and jeweler Michael Markowitsch. He married one of Markowitsch's daughters and in 1862 the company was renamed Markowitsch & Scheid and adopted the mark M & S. It was located in Sandwirtgasse 8, and then in Gumpendorfer Straße 83....
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Luis Castelo Lopes writes:
... Please find here some photos of a silver salver (diameter 56 cm. - 1926 grams) which bears the hallmarks of Palermo, could you please confirm that and tell me if the mark is from the 17th or from the 18th century?
In my opinion there is a Dutch or German influence what do you think?
Many thanks
Best regards
Luis Castelo Lopes
The mark belongs to Pietro Guarnuto, Console degli Argentieri (Alderman) from 1/7/1667 to 26/6/1668.
I do not know if there was a German influence, but a 17th century Nurnberg plate with floral decorations is present in a Sicilian museum.
Giorgio Busetto

John Alejandro writes:
... I would like to seek your help in getting more information about an item I recently acquired. The photos are attached. It is a sterling silver pyx and paten that have European hallmarks. The seller stated that it came from a Belgian convent, but I have no way of independently verifying this. I would like to be able to find out the year, the maker, as well as the meaning of the hallmarks. It would also be good if anyone can provide a history about this item.
The large paten measures 6". Removable pyx at the center measures 4" in Diameter. Holds up to 1.5" diameter sacred hosts. The pyx (set on the center) and the paten are separable. Both have the European hallmarks for silver and gold.
Thank you very much.
Regards,

John Alejandro
Any suggestion by ASCAS members will be welcome
Giorgio Busetto
***ANSWER PUBLISHED IN APRIL NEWSLETTER***

Ronald Dewar writes:
... I would very much appreciate your help in identifying this silver casket. The photograph comes from an album belonging to my grand / great grand parents and I am trying to find out what the connection there is to this casket.
I hope you can tell me who it was made for and what occasion it marks .
Ronald Dewar
The casket is described as "DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED BY GEORGE EDWARD & SONS - GLASGOW & LONDON"
George Edward & Sons was a retail business established in Glasgow in 1838.
The firm opened (probably in 1874) a London branch at Mansion House Buildings, 19 Poultry, Cheapside.
In 1925 the firm was converted into Edward & Sons Ltd and was still active in 1963 at St. Vincent Street, Glasgow. Some years later it was sold to Mappin & Webb Ltd.
Presumably your photo refers to the period 1874/1925.
Giorgio Busetto

Piero Eduardo writes:
...Dear Giorgio, this is a time fortunate enough to continue my "research", as I found this sea foam calabash pipe that I submit to your attention in order to identify the maker's mark LA (without frame), Birmingham 1905. On your site I learned that a maker mark LA is identifiable with Lawrence Aitchison, mid 19th c. But this silversmith, if I have not misinterpreted your information, was active in Glasgow instead of Birmingham. Therefore, I trust in your help for the identification of the mark on my pipe.
Best regards
Piero Eduardo
I'm sorry, but, in this case, I'm unable to identify the maker's mark.
The literature about Birmingham silver hallmarks of the early 20th century is scarce, but I trust in the help of ASCAS members for the identification of the mark (a possible addition to my list of
Tobacconists, Pipe Makers and Pipe Mounters hallmarks in silvercollection.it.
Giorgio Busetto
***ANSWER PUBLISHED IN APRIL NEWSLETTER***

Joy Aumiller writes:
...I have an unusual silver bottle that I have been trying to identify for many years.
I purchased what I thought was a silver perfume bottle at an antique store in PA. When I got the bottle home, I discovered it had many unusual features. I have had the bottle for almost 10 years and I have never been able to identify the markings or even if it is actually a perfume bottle. From time to time, I search books and the web...but this is the first time I have actually "reached out" for help.
I believe the bottle itself is plated because it has a gold tint on the underside of the base.
The finial/dauber has markings on both sides, and seems to be silver. The threads that screw the top to the bottle also seem to be hand made. There is a small mark on the top of the bottle where the finial lines up, exactly, when the top is on.
I have never been able to find any markings even close to those on the finial.
The bottle measures about 5 inches tall and 2 inches wide, and weighs about 100 grams empty. The strangest feature of all is the fact that the bottle is filled with a fine, shiny, black, powder (about 25 grams).
I am thinking the bottle may be some kind of jewelers tool...? I really don't know, but I no longer think it is a perfume bottle.
Any tips you might have would be truly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Joy Aumiller
Suggestions are needed
Giorgio Busetto
***ANSWER PUBLISHED IN APRIL NEWSLETTER***

David March writes:
...Dear Giorgio, Could you or ASCAS members help me with the following item?
It is a silver beaker. I was told it originated in Poland (belonging to a nobleman) though it evidently has a German hallmark.
I would be particularly interested in any information on the coat of arms.
Thank you very much.
David
***ANSWER PUBLISHED IN APRIL NEWSLETTER***


A PREVIEW OF THE NEW BRITISH COMMEMORATIVE HALLMARK
A special commemorative hallmark has been designed to celebrate the Queen's Diamond Jubilee.
The mark, depicting a young Queen Elizabeth wearing an oversized crown, will be available as an optional mark in combination with the statutory hallmark from 1 July 2011 until 1 October 2012.
Information about contemporary UK hallmarking system is available at http://www.silvercollection.it/dictionaryhallmarkingUK.html
Giorgio Busetto

Replies to questions

Pierre Bertrand receives this answer about his silver flatware 
(see February 2011 Newsletter)
Emil Fonfoneata writes:
... In the last newsletter there has been a question of Pierre Bertrand who has several forks and spoons.
They are all 19th Century made in Belgium, silver standard 2 = 800/1000%.
The first item on the left, silversmith letter H for HUBEN HENDRIK is a silversmith who was active in Mechelen from 1847 until 1868.
The second silversmith letter B for Bousin-Bonnevie from Brussels active from 1878 until 1911.
The third silversmith letter D for Delheid freres Brussels active from 1862 until 1980.
The fourth silversmith letter B for Bonnevie Emile Adolphe active in Brussels from 1864 until 1878.
They are regular items on the Belgian market.
Emil Fonfoneata

Claudio Morelli receives this answer about his silver cruet stand 
(see February 2011 Newsletter)
Oskar M. Zurell writes:
... Also after an intensive internet-research it was until yet impossible for me to find any copy of basics of Austrian Assay rules for the time span of 1872 (actually I haven't any possibility for a local Archive research in Vienna).
So I could repeat only the information on that theme, taken out of Waltraud Neuwirth information:
" 1872, April 1 Act of March 10, 1872, comes into force:
all marks have to include the letter of the Assay Office (pl. 7). The letter alone is used for smaller components of an object; if it is not possible to strike it because of the smallness of these components, it has to be placed beside the mark on the main part of the object."
Source: Waltraud Neuwirth,'Wiener Gold- und Silberschmiede und ihre Punzen 1867-1922', volume I, page 48; in 2 volumen: ISBN 3-900282-00-5
Oskar M. Zurell


"A PAGE per MONTH"

In this column we present a page obtained from makers' brochures, books, auction catalogs, advertising or whatever other printed paper, related to silver, that may be of interest for ASCAS members.
The images will be published at a "low resolution" level and for private and personal use only
an ancient advertisement of Rogers & Bro
This month ASCAS presents an ancient advertisement of Rogers & Bro

A PRACTICAL NOVELTY

 

The ORANGE PEELER hereon illustrated is conceded by all who have used it to be perfect in its operation, neatly removing the peel without soiling the fingers.
Made in table and pocket sizes, assorted patterns and finishes. Table size put up six in plush lined paper box; pocket size each in leather sheath in paper box.
 
PRICE FOR EACH $ 6.00 PER DOZEN
 

"A WORD per MONTH"

In this column we present an abstract from a page of the "What is? Silver Dictionary" 
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silver buckle: France 1819/1838

BUCKLE

A silver buckle is a type of fastener for a belt, girdle, etc.; first developed in England in the late 17th century, buckles were used there to replace shoe-laces. Later buckles, of various shapes and sizes, were used for other purposes, and were sometimes attached as an ornament to a ribbon worn around a woman's neck; a buckle is also used, as a fastener or as an ornament, on some shoes or on a wristband... more




 

"A SILVERSMITH per MONTH"

In this column we present marks, information and history of silversmiths and silver manufacturers.
This column is published under the kind permission of Giorgio Busetto's website     
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MARTIN, HALL & CO LTD

The origin of the firm is in the partnership established in 1820 in Sheffield by Henry Wilkinson and John Roberts who traded as Wilkinson & Roberts. Wilkinson left the business in 1836 and in 1846 John Roberts entered in partnership with Ebenezer Hall (his apprentice in 1836) under the style Roberts & Hall.
In 1854 entered into the partnership Richard Martin (of Martin Brothers & Naylor) and Joshua Hall (brother of Ebenezer Hall) under the style Martin, Hall & Co. In 1866 the firm was converted into a Ltd....
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"A BOOK ON MY SHELF"

In this column we present books, new or ancient, dealing with silver in all its aspects (history, marks, oddities...). This isn't a "book review" but only a fair presentation of some useful "tools" that anyone may have in the shelf of his bookcase.
ASCAS members are invited to contribute to this column
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The "book on my shelf" of this month presents:
book: Silver Flatware, English, Irish and Scottish, 1660-1980
SILVER FLATWARE
English, Irish and Scottish 1660-1980
by Ian Pickford
published for the Antique Collectors' Club
by The Antique Collectors' Club Ltd
Baron Publishing, Woodbridge, Suffolk
1983
Since the study and collecting of silver flatware is so satisfying it is surprising that this is the first detailed work published in the subject.
This book provides a superb opportunity for the would-be collector actually to start acquiring pieces with which to set a table of silver that is a pleasure to look at as well as handle. By diligent searching one can build up, for relatively modest sums, a service of one of the many patterns discussed and, according to one's finances, it can be of early or late date, rare or common.
As well as the wide-ranging look at flatware patterns the author also discusses in detail flatware makers, stylistic developments, quality, repairs, fakes, forgeries and alterations, as well as the marking of flatware.
Written by an expert this is the ideal book with which to study a fascinating collection subject.

"A CREST per MONTH"

In this column we present images and descriptions of Crests and Mottoes of British, Irish and Scottish families as engraved on silver items.

MACKAY - M'CAA - M'CASKILL - M'QUIE

Elkington & Co food cover with crest


 
Scottish and Lancashire (M'Quie) families
A dexter cubit arm, erect, in hand a dagger and the motto Manu Forti (With a strong hand)

The crest was found on a silver plate food cover made by Elkington & Co


Elkington & Co food cover with crest

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Closing our March 2011 edition of ASCAS Newsletter I hope you have appreciated its content.
Your comments, suggestions and advice will be of great help.

My thanks to John Alejandro, Joy Aumiller, C. Bruno Bruni, Ronald Dewar, Jayne Dye, Piero Eduardo, Emil Fonfoneata, Luis Castelo Lopes, Prof. David N. Nikogosyan and Oskar M. Zurell for their invaluable contributions.

Giorgio Busetto
Secretary
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