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by Dorothea Burstyn
 
 

All these numbers ...
ENDONOTES

1)

William P. Hood, Jr. John R. McGrew, Charles S. Curb, John R. Olson and Stanley Szaro: The Berry Silver Flatware Pattern by Whiting, in Silver Magazine September/October 2004, page 32.

2)

It is rare, that such a fine collection comes to market. The scholarly catalogue is an excellent study aid. Sotheby?s Geneva Nov.17,1992: The Thurn and Taxis Collection.

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There were 9 dozen mid 18th century Augsburg dinner plates and 6 dozen dinner plates dating to 1781-1789, these and the German flatware in the collection all followed these numbering schemes. It is interesting to note that the 6 dozen mid 18th century Austrian dinner plates neither have scratch weights nor inventory numbers.

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Scratch weight on brazier by Myer Myers, New York ca. 1755, in Christies, New York Jan. 22, 1993, :Important American Silver: The collection of James H. Halpin.

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Sotheby's Monaco, June 20, 1992: Importante Orfevrerie provenant de la Collection Arturo Lopez-Willshaw, Lot 11:A set of twelve first course plate, N. Besnier, Paris 1723-1724, the pieces are stamped with No.5/19=6, No. 6/20=10, no. 10/19=9, etc. Another example for this system is a set of 55 silver dinner plates from the Bateman Service, N. Besnier, Paris, 1723, plates are stamped No 1-22-17, No 2-23-3, etc. offered as Lot 258: The collection of the late Count and Countess Guy du Boisrouvray, Sotheby?s, New York, Oct.27/28, 1989.

6)

Stein, Fabian: Weights on Continental silver, in: The Silver Society Journal, Autumn 1997, page 577.

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Ibid, the Koelnische Mark (Cologne mark) was used in Baden, Munich and Bavaria, Bremen, Braunschweig, Frankfurt on-the-Main,Hamburg, Hanover, Hildesheim, Osnabrueck, Darmstadt and Hesse-Darmstadt, Kassel and the Electorat of Hesse, Altona and Holstein, Luebeck, Rostock and Meckleburg-Schwerin, Wiesbaden,Nassau, parts of Warsaw and Poland, Prussia with Aix-la-Chapelle, Berlin, Cologne, Danzig, Duesseldorf, Elberfeld, Koenigsberg, Muenster, Dresden and Leipzig with Saxony, Coburg and the State of Saxe-Coburg, Stuttgart and Wuerttemberg.

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Sotheby?s, New York, May 2004.

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N.M. Penzer: Paul Storr, 1771 ? 1844, Silversmith and Goldsmith, Spring Books, London,New York, Sydney, Toronto, London 1954, For examples of items with job numbers see page 220, page 224, page 238.

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'Pattern or job number' - terminus technicus used by Jenny Pitman, Christies, New York, Rockefeller Plaza. Email March 21, 2005

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All items offered in Christie?s NY silver sale, April 2005. I am grateful to Jenny Pitman for having checked these items for their numberings.

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Lecture by Michael J. Weller, Argentum ? The Leopard?s Head, at the Oakland Silver Conference, Fall 2004: Shreve in 1920:Craft, Workshop, Factory

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Samuel J. Hough, contact email: owlbridge@ cox.net

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I am grateful to William P. Hood, jr. for sharing information re Gorham flatware and tirelessly answering all my questions re American flatware.

15)

The fork has only 357=pattern pattern number and 1045=decoration design number stamped in. Both shown in William P. Hood, jr.: Tiffany flatware, Suffolk 2003, page 228, Fig. 341 c and Fig.341d.

16)

Ian Pickford: Silver Flatware, English, Irish and Scottish 1660-1980, Antique Collector?s Club, 1983, page 44. Re American silver and journeymen?s marks, John McGrew in Manufacturers? marks on Coin Silver, Hanover 2004 pictures many ?extra? marks on coin silver and determines them to be journeymen marks. They were most prevalent in up-state New York, but also found from NH, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Dr. McGrew sees the study and identification of journeymen mark as the ?challenge to future students of coin silver marks'.

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E-mail: Judy Redfield April 4, 2005

18)

Ibid

19)

Reg.No. 1 registered in January 1884, Rd.No. 19754 registered in January 1885, etc. for exact numbers please see: Unitt?s Book of Marks, Antiques and Collectibles, compiled and edited by Peter Unitt and Ann Worrall, Fitzhenry & Witheside, Markham, Ontario 1990. Many comprehensive sites on the net, just google English Registry marks.

20)

Websites for English patent registration: www.patent.gov.uk/patent/dbase and for American patents http://patft.uspto.gov

21)

Email Judy Redfield October 16, 2004

Dorothea Burstyn - 2004 -

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